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03/04/2017

86-09-07 (Nieuwe Madelon) Repulsives – Hate Crew (extra photos)

Filed under: NOT Netwerk (still Aalst) — Tags: , , , , — smurfpunx @ 16:21

see also 86-09-07 (Nieuwe Madelon) Toxic Reasons – K.G.B. – Ear Damage – Repulsives – Hate Crew

‘Hate Crew’: Kris Fiers (vocals), Guy Temmerman (bass), Bruno ‘Duco’ (guitar), Guido Duytschaever (guitar), Philippe ‘Mone’ Crombeen (drums)

‘Repulsives’: Dirk Pattyn (drums), ‘Brob’ (guitar), ‘Stinky’ (vocals/guitar), ‘Faan/Disorder’ (bass)

These photos are from the collection of ‘Phantom’ (R.I.P.) of the Charleroi Slam Crew:

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86-09-07-repulsives-stinky-phantom‘Stinky’

The following pics are courtesy of Dirk Ceustermans:

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02/21/2017

Hageland Hardcore, Sharphill, 18 sep ’87

Filed under: NOT Smurfpunx — Tags: , , , , , , — smurfpunx @ 15:22

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18 sep ’87 (‘Parochiezaal’): No Allegiance (Ger), Hate Crew (Bel), Death Angel (USA)

There’s some more info about this on the introductionary page Hageland Hardcore concerts Scherpenheuvel

‘No Allegiance’ was the band of David Pollack (Destiny recs, Berlin). He was the singer; the others were Dietmar Jahr (guitra), Ilja Schellschmidt (bass; later ‘Combat Not Conform’) & Klaus Budach (drums). The day after this they played the DOL festival (@ ‘Gemeentezaal’, Overpelt), together with ‘Poison Girls’ (UK), ‘Raw Power’ (Ita), etc.

‘Death Angel’ was recorded from the audience here by Steve W.: “Not really super quality but it came out alright after some major EQ’ing & whatnot. The band is shit hot & super tight here & the crowd are loving it. The very last track seems to be an unreleased song that didn’t appear on their first 3 albums (it’s called Dehumanization). So here’s a nice, tight & blistering 70 minute set of Bay-Area thrash”.

03/12/2012

Hageland Hardcore, Sharphill, 4 oct ’87

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4 oct ’87 (‘Parochiezaal’): T.S.O.L. (USA), Unwanted Youth (Ger), Neuroot (Nl), Hate Crew (Bel)

There’s some more info about this on the introductionary page Hageland Hardcore concerts Scherpenheuvel

Photos by Agna Van Rillaer – scans by Gunter Vaes

‘Hate Crew’: Kris Fiers (vocals), Guy Temmerman (Bass), Bruno ‘Duco’ (guitar), Guido Duytschaever (guitar), Philippe ‘Mone’ Crombeen (drums) [Pascal F. (in the corner) keeping an eye on his bro]

‘Neuroot’ (Nl); Ed ‘Etje’ van Dalen (guitar) – Marcel S. (bass) – Wouter (vocals) – Ben (drums)

‘Unwanted Youth’ (Gelsenkirchen, Ger): Heiko Gantenberg (bass), Olli Stratmann (drums), Tom Marschal (guitar) & ‘Lülle’ (vocals)

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‘T.S.O.L.’ [‘True Sounds of Liberty’] (USA)

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Here’s some extra photos of ‘Neuroot’ (by Kockie):

09/07/2011

De Kiët

De Kiët (which means something like ‘the shack’ in the dialect of Aalst) was a bit of a dingy metal pub (at a certain timepoint ran by aunty Taeleman -Veerle-, sister of ‘Rough Justice’s singer Koen) with a stage where bands could play. Since the HC/punk-scene crossed over with the metal-scene quite a bit those days, it happened that HC/punx hung out there. Certainly when hardcore bands were invited… I recall bands like ‘Hate Crew’, ‘Heibel’, ‘Ear Damage’ playing there; probably ‘Cyclone’, ‘X-Creta’, ‘Violent Mosquitos’, ‘Rough Justice’ aswell… And ‘Cólera’!

Local metal-lovers (Nathalie G. 2nd from R)

87-xx-xx Cólera (Kiët) (-)‘Cólera’ (photo courtesy of Veerle Taeleman)

87-xx-xx Colera @ de Kiët (met Kassie)the crowd during ‘Cólera’s gig with ‘Kassie’ crowdsurfing

Some pictures of ‘Heibel’ by Nathalie Guyot

(singer here is Peter Daniëls, so it must’ve been after the summer of ’87):

Peter & Pé on a break

Peter, Erwin & Pé in action

Erwin dreaming of playing the bass for ‘Excel’ – Erwin, Peter, Jo & Pé (where was Steven?)

03/21/2011

Hate Crew tour 1988

Filed under: Uncategorized — Tags: , , , , , — smurfpunx @ 17:01

This is a piece I wrote about the tour I did for/with ‘Hate Crew’ (see: Brob’s tours). It was intended for my zine Tilt! but somehow never made it to that… Some of them were mates/ members of the Smurfpunx-collctive so it was only obvious that I helped them out, ‘specially since my own band ‘Repulsives’ had split up. Duco had left the band just before the tour. Along for the ‘ride’, besides the band-members (Kris, Guy, Mone & Guido) and myself, were Smurfpunx Mokka & Snake and Mone’s girlfriend Caro…

Brob

Here’s the info-sheet that was written for the tour:

And here are some of the flyers of the tour:

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René Harx in WajlemacOur mate René Harx (from Eindhoven) visited the show in Hamburg

02/22/2011

87-11-14 (Netwerk) Cyclone – Inhuman Conditions – Hate Crew – Brain Cancer

Filed under: Netwerk, Aalst — Tags: , , , , , , — smurfpunx @ 20:55

One of the most controversial ones that we ever put up was that so-called ‘come back concert’ of ‘Cyclone’ (who were on Roadrunner, then a subsidiary of Universal, by the way). There we were screwed, period! Certain Smurfpunx-members had been smoothly talked into booking the concert, based on promises that it would be the very first appearance of the band with the new line-up. We announced it that way on the promotion materials too, only to find out that they played De Kiët (a grotty metal pub situated a few blocks from Netwerk) and in Ternat (not that far from Aalst) one week before they were supposed to play at Netwerk. I myself wanted to cancel the thing right away and put up a door-sign for the audience saying that they could thank the main act’s unreliability for showing up for nothing. When others did gave in I had enough. I don’t have the original of the flyer and poster anymore (as I do have for most other gigs). Probably I tore it up or put my lighter at it out of sheer rage and frustration at the time…

Duco

‘Inhuman Conditions’ were a bit of a metal-band too. Actually, I didn’t know the band before my pal Bernd Backhaus (who was doing Battlefield zine at that time and was kind of their ‘manager’) introduced met to them and sent me a tape asking to book ‘m a few shows. So I arranged for them to play this one and sorted them a gig for the next day with ‘Attitude’ in Scherpenheuvel. We weren’t afraid of a pinch of metal and thrash, were we? I could enjoy the musical influences for sure but the attitudes sometime made me puke. But we tried to give it a chance from time to time. Sometimes it turned out OK, sometimes…not so… Some in ‘Cyclone’ had a bit of an ego but singer Guido was a sensible guy (most of the time -smile) and Stefaan (at first on bass, later guitar) was a fine chap. I remember him spending the night with us (my band ‘Repulsives’, that is) in Leuven, after being chased by skins after our gig at the Q104…

Wasn’t ‘Hate Crew’ a metal-influenced hardcore-band either? Sure they were and a good one too. With 5 appearances (a record?!) at Smurfpunx concerts (most of them were part of the collective and whenever a band cancelled they fell in; they also didn’t hesitate to lend equipment when necessary), they definitely were thé Smurfpunx house-band! Good friends too and I gladly set up their tour through Germany later on. Great adventure! Nice people aswell: Duco (guitar), Kris (vocals), Guy (bass), Mone (drums) & Guido (guitar)…

Brob

…from the Belgian fanzine Het Schandaal (#10; 2nd half of the 80s) =>

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photos of ‘Cyclone’ & ‘Brain Cancer’

‘Inhuman Conditions’ 1987 * left to right: Thorsten – guitar, Ridi – vocals, Arnie – bass, Thomas – guitar, Piefke – drums (pic kindly donated by Bernd B.)

Photos of ‘Inhuman Conditions’ from the collection of ‘Phantom’ (R.I.P.) of the Charleroi Slam Crew =>

04/03/2010

88-04-02 (Netwerk) Joyce McKinney Experience – Visions Of Change – Squandered Message – Scoundrels – Hate Crew – [The Idiots] – [Fang]

This ‘Day Against Militarism’ was very chaotic/confusing; even 20+ years later, people are still not sure what happened… Did ‘Fang’! and ‘The Idiots’ play? No! Their tour got cancelled… Apparently ‘Fang’s singer was in jail. What was the ‘replacement’? ‘Bell’laut’  from Braunchweig had split up; so our Berlin’er buddies ‘Squandered Message’ (bass-player Florian Helmchen was a pen-pal) came over… Did ‘Dorpsoudste de Jong’ show up? Read people’s various memories… I was a bit numb  ’cause of not enough sleep (getting back from seein’ ‘Lärm’ in Winterswijk only at 7 a.m.). Do remember ‘Hate Crew’ sounded great under their new tour-banner and everybody was slamming/stagediving…

Somewhere in Smurfpunx’ history, ‘The Joyce McKinney Experience’ did a fabulous concert. I know I was very excited about the vocal harmonies of Sharon Hunt and Yvonne McAvoy. In letters from that era I read this was the day a tail-wind blew them to Aalst along with their friends of ‘Visions Of Change’! Both ‘J McK E’ and ‘V.O.C.’ (with people from ‘Depraved’: singer Ian Murphy & his brother Lee on guitar, drummer Paul ‘Gigs’ McGivern but now with Kevin Webb -I think- on bass – see also Netwerk, Aalst, 17 apr 87 (Cólera).) were from Leamington Spa (U.K.), shared drummer Gigs and started their tour here. They had been driving all night and had another concert that evening (@ ‘De Garde’ in Brasschaat). Must’ve been an ordeal but they sounded excellent! A pity they had to go on early and leave to do that other gig… [review of the ‘J McK E’ album in Tilt! #5: “Tuneful, melodic HC with a bunch of surprising hooks and dual female vocals. Lyrics showing a smart understanding of what’s happening with nature and it’s humans. A marvellous record!”] To complete ‘J McK E’ were bassplayer Robbie Robb and guitarist Charles ‘Charlie’ Busby.

‘Joyce McKinney Experience’ (photo by Nathalie Guyot)

It was a benefit for the ‘V.I.A. Dachau Fonds’, an organisation set up to raise money and support for total-refusers (Jaak, C.P.D. drummer, and another guy P. Hublou). No-one seems to recall why it was named after a nazi concentration-camp (or maybe that speaks for itself?).

‘Florennade’ was an organisation that held peace-picknicks and protested against cruise-missiles (that NATO placed at the Belgian military base in Florennes and are actually still there and protested against). Also a movie about the war-industries was shown. And ‘KNAL’? An anti-military/anti-service group…

Brob

‘KNAL’ is an anti-militarist organisation that wants to denounce abuses. They need money (for actions, fines, etc.). Our band ‘Anguish’ will do benefits for and donate the ‘profits’ to them. You can write us for info. ‘KNAL’ will also put out a ‘zine (no music-reviews) with just political subjects. The first actions will be about Florennes. Pogo for ‘KNAL’!

Bart ‘Anguish’ (personal communication ’87)

The ‘Scoundrels’ were very good (though their new 2nd guitarist, previously in ‘Wulpse Varkens’, annoyed me a bit) but I can’t recall ‘The Idiots’ anymore. ‘Hate Crew’ were about to embark on a 10-day German tour that Brob organised that summer but it would turn out to be one of my last shows as I didn’t join them. (I might be wrong but I don’t think this was my very last concert with them…) I had it by then with some members of ‘Hate Crew’ and I was weary of the metal turn they and the band had taken. So I had to draw the line somewhere. I wanted to “move on”. ‘Dorpsoudste de Jong’ was kind of a mixture between a stand-up comedian and an ‘alternative poet’ à la Paul van Ostayen (for the connaisseurs). John Massis [Brob: A ‘stunt-man’ that did all kinds of gimmicks, like pulling trains, with his teeth] was planned to show up. I think Mokka arranged that. The intention was that he would bend some kind of sham cruise-missile made out of a metal stove-pipe with his teeth or something like that… (SMILE) But for some reason he didn’t appear: he was ill, I think, or at least that was what we were told.

The concert was a benefit for what is called ‘totaalweigeraars’ in Dutch (literally: ‘those refusing everything’): Jaak (the drummer of ‘C.P.D.’) and a certain Patrick Hulbou, whose background was never clear to me. These were people who refused to do any kind of compulsory military service. For the young or/and the Anglo-Americans, who (mostly) never knew compulsory military service and as such never had to think about what to do when time came, this might need some explanation. At that time, most continental European countries still had compulsory military service. Those were they days that clean-cut and khaki-clad conscripts were a familiar sight in railway-stations on Friday- and Sunday-evening. Some militant left-wingers consciously chose to do the military service, assuming that they could learn useful techniques there for eventual armed struggle. Conscientious objectors could, after a lengthy procedure, opt for unarmed military service (e.g. in the kitchen) or an alternative civil service, taking one and a half to twice as long, either in a civil protection and disaster intervention unit, in a hospital or in the socio-cultural sector. At that time, Belgium had a staunchly pro-NATO government and objection was also socially frowned upon. Some, out of ideological grounds, refused to do both kinds of services. This actually needed guts, for as ‘draft-dodgers’, they became liable for criminal prosecution and prison-sentences. The concert was to raise funds to help pay their lawyers’ bill. It’s not clear how the case ended. So we leave it up to Jaak and Patrick to tell it themselves if they read this and feel like it.

We organised it in collaboration with a number of anarchist committees and rather esoteric action-groups but I recall that things never really ‘stuck’ with those people, save a few exceptions like Eric from ‘De Nar’. I found them pretentious, criticising everything. Yet advance viable alternatives was, of course, something else… (for that is called ‘responsibility’). It was never OK and never good enough for them but they weren’t ever clear about what they actually wanted. Probably they didn’t know themselves.

That day, Felix De Witte, a free-lance journalist specialized in Third World issues and – during his years at uni – an organiser of punk-gigs in Leuven, promoted a book about his brother Michaël. The latter was a physician who was involved in the FMLN-guerrilla in El Salvador and died during an ambush of the government-army [Brob: I wrote about it in my zine ‘Tilt!’ #5]. It was the only time I saw Felix, normally a very warm-hearted and easy-going person, furious. It happened when a few anarchists took him under fire; threw some of the books around and said that his brother was ‘a violent Stalinist’. The man had been a Communist and one who was sincerely driven and willing to go all the way for what he believed in. And the FMLN indeed were no softies (their opponents even less, so they didn’t have to be). It was incredibly out of place to say something like that from the safety of commune-squats and on welfare-allowances paid by the very system and society that you claim to hate.

Duco

Jeez! You guys at Smurfpunx really do everything possible to put up great shows. It was a real surprise to see ‘Visions Of Change’ and ‘The Joyce McKinney Experience’  as a replacement for ‘Fang!’. ‘Scoundrels were very good aswell.

Alain ‘Nabate’ (personal communication ’88)

I can’t remember who P. Hublou was, Jaak could tell us more… ‘V.I.A. Dachau Fonds’ and ‘KNAL!’ were contacted by someone of ‘Netwerk’. ‘Florennade’ was invited by me because an ex-girlfriend of mine was an active member; they were ‘bomb-spotters’, one of those anti cruise-missile groups that were around in Belgium and the rest of Europe (they were really independent and not connected to one or other party). When those cruise-missiles were actually placed in Florrenes, they succeeded in buying a house right nearby the airforce-base from where they kept an eye on things, even tried to mobilise the local population and ‘educate’ the military, etc. They kept the peace-movement in the know; these were especially afraid that the cruise-missiles would be secretly moved to another army-base. I know the national intelligence/security-services constantly kept an eye on them and that they also had to deal with infiltration-attempts.

Massis was indeed ill. ‘Dorpsoudste de Jong’ didn’t want to come – I rang him myself: he didn’t see the use of it; he did come on another occasion. [Jos is pretty sure he came (see his recollection below); perhaps Mokka confuses dates.] Don’t know about any discussions anymore. The tour by ‘Fang!’ and ‘The Idiots’ was cancelled but don’t ask me who replaced them.

What I do remember, is that before the whole thing started, I was addressed by someone of the B.O.B. [Brob: The ‘Bijzondere Opsporing Brigade’, ‘Special Espial Brigade’; at that time a notorious section of the ‘Rijkswacht’, the gendarmerie…]: he wanted to know what the intention of the concert was. I told him that we wanted to spend the money we raised to pay for attorney-fees of Jaak and P. Hublou. He seemed satisfied with that answer: we never heard anything about it…

You might also recall that Jaak returned the money we gave him [Brob: 20.000 BeF, i.e. € 500; a lot of money then! 400 people had showed up] when he decided to do civil service anyway… [Brob: Jaak spent some time in jail; hardly anyone reproaches him anything. He was/is an honest idealist but there’s no need to attribute him a hero-status. There was perhaps a tiny minority of his old compagnons that were heavily disillusioned but I think I can say Smurfpunx respected his choice.]

Mokka

The organisation was VERY GOOD! Thumbs up. Although it appeared to me as a punk-festival with some stalls. But well, maybe you received little cooperation. Perhaps some extra speakers or a slide-show, theatre? Who knows…

Labie, ‘Scoundrels’ (personal communication ’88)

You were wearing an ‘It’s OK not to drink’ T-shirt when we played you’re venue in Aalst. I can remember it well because it was the first date we played of the tour ands it seemed well organised and clean. A lot better than in the UK. The bands really appreciated the food that you cooked for us.

Sharon Hunt;  ‘Joyce McKinney Experience’ vocalist (personal communication ’89)

Wow, my memories of this are indeed very blurry…! I remember it was a great vibe, more skaters than at any other gig…. It was nice to see them! Despite what’s written above, it seemed to us to be very well organised. It was an all-ages gig, wasn’t it? [Brob: All Smurfpunx gigs were all-ages…] If so we really liked that (if not, I’’m sorry for getting confused, haha). We were sorry not to be able to stay. I kind of remember before and after, rather than actually playing…but yeah – great energy there. Many thanks!! :-)

Robbie Robb; ‘Joyce McKinney Experience’ bassist

Some pictures (by Phil Anthonis):

‘Squandered Message’: ‘Rotze’ Uwe Haseman – Achim von Kredelbach – ‘Flo’ Florian Helmchen (Was Lars Gunzler still on drums here?)

‘Scoundrels’: Labie – Frank – Luc (under the ‘Hate Crew’ Banner)

‘Hate Crew’: Guido – Kris – Duco

‘Hate Crew’: Duco firing up the divers

‘Hate Crew’: Kockie in sacred admiration of Kris & Guido

Actually, I did perform in Netwerk in Aalst. I remember very well that it díd happen, but how and what exactly…? There was some correspondence beforehand and in one of those notes I was told the best thing for me was to travel to ‘Brussel Zuid’ [railway-station] and opposite of the station there as a small café where someone would be waiting for me. Get this right: it was a time long before internet, google-maps, email, mobile phones – you name it. I had never been in Brussels before but you just leave and indeed: opposite the station there was a café with the same name mentioned in the letter, and there I met, after some looking around, the person who was waiting for me. I imagine we had something to drink first, the host might have had a bear and myself a coffee or a soda. And after that we took the train to Aalst. At that time Aalst already had a special significance to me because of the columns by Louis Paul Boon [Flemish writer]; he had lived not so far away from there and Aalst occurred in his ‘Boontjes’ from time to time. But I’m wandering off… It was beautiful weather according to me; that’s very well possible because in April it’s always nice in Belgium, in any case when I’m visiting (something I did quite often after that) it’s always beautiful weather in Belgium in April. In Netwerk I was quickly piloted to the dressing-room [no real backstage in netwerk, there was a room upstairs where bands/performers could relax and have a meal] and there I met acquaintances from Amsterdam. But who were they? The ‘Scoundrels’? [not from A’dam but the south of the Netherlands; almost Belgians – smile] Did these come from Amsterdam? Did ‘Nog Watt’ happen to be there? I didn’t see them on the poster. Or ‘Amsterdamned’? [Probably Hettie of Konkurrent and perhaps some of her friends, touring with ‘Joyce McKinney Experience’] Or Jeroen doing the sound for this or that band? I can’t recall but for sure I didn’t feel alone anymore in far-way Belgium. Yep, Hettie, of course! And Jeroen could be correct then too, I think they were together for a while. Jeroen Visser (http://www.mhlabs.com/metric_halo/news/jeroen.shtml), once played in ‘Frenz Fried’, the ‘Frimos’ and ‘Frites Modern’; he was the sound-guy for ‘The Ex’ and other bands… How did my performance go? No idea. No curtain of shame falls over me when I try to remember so let’s keep it to reasonable, perhaps even good. How did I get home? No idea. Can’t recall a journey in the opposite direction even though it could have taken place. It’s also possible that I drove back with one of the bands. Who will tell? It’s only a mere 22 years ago. I’ve got a box with old diaries somewhere around here. Who knows I can still find the one from ‘88 between them. It would find it funny if I would bump into the name of that café and the name of the one who waited for me there. But did I write that down? More probable is that I just got out of the train with the note in my hands, quickly checked the name of the place, looked who I would find there and that this information would have never been entered in my journal. But if…well yeah, I even don’t have a clue where that box with old diaries is. Moved not so long ago and sometimes I am hopelessly looking for stuff. Oh yeah: when I do come Brussels nowadays, I sometimes still look from the train-window in search of a row of facades where I could detect that café. But well, that area there has changed so much: perhaps the place doesn’t exist since 20 years anymore?

‘Dorpsoudste de Jong’

<<After a lot of juggling about, this is how the bill looked like… Things didn’t look that good when ‘J.M.E.’ started because the place was not even half-filled. But this English band brought us some very nice music, with every now and then some decent pounding. The 2 female singers were definitely swinging. I guess I don’t have to tell much about ‘V.O.C.’; they used to be called ‘Depraved’ and they’re still playing their songs. The new ones sound pretty much the same. Great band. After ‘Dorpsoudste de Jong’ had shouted (and I mean really screamed) his poems into the audience, I was able to get a decent view of ‘Scoundrels’ at work. And they didn’t disappoint me. The place had gotten packed by then and there was a lot of moving about going on. This got mad when ‘Hate Crew’ played. It was long ago since I saw such a huge ‘slam-pit’. ‘Hate Crew’ gave their ultimate best with lots of metal in it. When it was the German ‘Squandered Message’s turn, everyone was tired and was hanging about a bit. That was a shame because they offered us a chunk of solid hardcore. The vocals drowned a bit but this is a decent band. Conclusion: successful but tiring day.>>

‘Thaw’ #3 (’88; Dutch fanzine)

01/30/2010

87-03-15 (Netwerk) Cólera – [Challenger Crew] – No Numbers – Anguish – Hate Crew – C.P.D.

The first show by ‘Cólera’ in Aalst… Yep, only shortly after this one, they would gig at ‘Netwerk’ again [Netwerk, Aalst, 17 apr 87 (Cólera)]. They played anywhere and anytime [see also Marbel, Tielt, 2 may 87 (Negazione) & Concerts * NOT Smurfpunx] they could. I must’ve seen them…8 times? Some thought they were stupid rich kids but I’ve always experienced them as friendly, modest, grateful guys – definitely not here to make easy money. Singer/guitarist Edson ‘Redson’ Lopes Pozzi was a charismatic personality; his brother Pierre (drums) and bassist Val were rather timid (probably because they hardly spoke any English). There was always a great atmosphere at their concerts. They confirmed their phenomenal live reputation here and played something like 10 ‘encores’…

‘Challenger Crew’ were the band of ‘Moses’ Arndt (later editor of the famous ‘Zap’ magazine), named after the exploded space-shuttle. I have no recollection of this but in letter from ’87 I read they didn’t show up because of illness…?

The Belgian bands…all friends. ‘Anguish’ from Leuven (a great band that I interviewed for Tilt! #3; see comment fot link) – with female & male vocalist (Bart sometimes dressing up as a woman, Murielle/’Mumu’ as a native American), Fons (ex-’Taartje Aardbei’, he replaced Juul) on bass, Kris on guitar and Steve on drums; they projected slides to draw extra attention to their lyrics – it would’ve helped if things were a little bit more readable… Commendable! (Have a look at Q104 concerts Leuven for some pictures of ‘Anguish’ playing in Leuven (1986)…)

And the Smurfpunx house-band ‘Hate Crew’ was simply fantastic! (I set up their tour through Germany later on) – also interviewed in my zine ‘Tilt!’. Plus ‘No Numbers’ – friends from my hometown from which I recruted my pal ‘Stinky’ to play in my own band ‘Repulsives’. Even though he wasn’t in ‘No Numbers’ anymore (Koen ‘Scampie’ Vercampt had taken over guitar-duties), he filled on bass for them here because Kris Vereecke was not available… (see photo). The other 2 were brothers Danny (vocals) & Stefaan ‘Lompie’ De Coninck (drums). They opened that afternoon with solid hardcore-punk. More than decent! C.P.D. (At a certain time-point they called their own music ‘Türkish Hardcore’, an inside joke between them and the ‘Heibel’ guys – it was a mixture of fun-core and thrash.) replaced ‘Challenger Crew’ effectively.

At that time I was not a member of the collective yet…

Brob

photo from the Dé O Fora 7″ (Hageland recs)

87-03-15-no-numbers-stinky-bass‘No Numbers’

87-03-15 Anguish @ Smurfpunx87-03-15 Anguish'87-03-15 Anguish‘Anguish’ pics (courtesy of Bart Schoofs)

I played that gig with ‘Anguish’ too: from then on they played with 2 guitars. I played in ‘O.I.L.L.’ [Brob: ‘Opa in Levende Lijve’ (“granddad alive and kicking”), a fun-core band with a.o. Rudy of ‘C.P.D.‘] and later also in ‘Anguish’…

‘Spiritus’

01/11/2010

87-03-08 (De Marbel) Lärm – Heibel – Hate Crew

Filed under: Marbel, Tielt, NOT Smurfpunx — Tags: , , , , , , , , — smurfpunx @ 17:57

I was 17 at the time and very ‘green’. I don’t remember running into trouble with the police at this time, this would only occur later, at a show at the Roxy in Dendermonde, or at anti-Vlaams Blok rallies in Bruges. In the pre-internet age, concert-news was spread by word of mouth or by flyers and every concert back then was definitely an exciting event, and as the small Belgian network grew and grew over the coming years, we would start seeing more familiar faces from all corners of Belgium, Holland and France at these concerts. We had a scene, we had a place to go see bands and connect with like-minded people.

‘Lärm’ was a phenomenon and for my band ‘Chronic Disease’, they were the first musical template of trashy hardcore/punk. Fast, manic, political, anarchic and fun. The flannel shirts and bandanas were ‘in vogue’, stage-diving and slamming a sport, the music fast and ferocious. Imagine transporting a Californian ‘skate’-band from 1983 to that hall in 1987, they wouldn’t have believed their eyes…

Don’t remember if I met you here Brob but I knew I had to come see more concerts. Something was alive.

Steve ‘Sling’ (‘Chronic Disease’)

This concert was also nót organised by the Smurfpunx-collective but it was one in the series that I organised in my hometown before I joined the collective to go on organising in Aalst and surroundings after the venue ‘De Marbel’ (also rehearsal-space for my band ‘Repulsives’) got shut down as I described before [Netwerk, Aalst, 27 jun 87 (Ripcord)]; so it could be seen as a prelude to the Smurfpunx-era (at least for me).

As you can read it was annoucned as a ‘Suicidal Party’… Nothing too morbid though: at that time we were all just very much into ‘Suicidal Tendencies’ that had gotten their 1st record out. Everyone was into the ‘bandana & flannel shirt’ fad… The font was also nicked from that.

Anyway, it was (again) a great night with older and new-found friends; and  with ‘ripping thrash’… It was most probably then and there that some of us decided to follow the ‘Lärm’ – ‘Heibel’ – ‘Heresy’ tour the following summer in the U.K. And that was the night where Theun K. gave me the ‘Raw Power’ T-shirt that I’m still wearing from time to time.

Brob

Here’s what I wrote in my ‘zine Tilt! about the event leading to the end of gigs in ‘De Marbel’:

Violence sucks

De Marbel is closed … De Marbel was closed. This pub plus concert-hall was closed down by the authorities on May 31st. [1987] Since a few months this hall was intensively used by hardcore-punx for organising gigs. The guy who runs the place is someone who keeps an open mind for all sorts of music. He was always ready to support and help people in the hardcore-scene. In that way Belgian and foreign punk/hardcore-bands would play there for only low entrance-fees. It’s a pity things got down on his head…

As with all concerts in every scene it’s difficult to handle a ‘big’ audience in the right way. I (as organiser of hardcore/punk-gigs) dare say that on our gigs there’s less violence than on so-called big concerts (e.g. Slayer; GBH – even people die there!). Me and everybody who organises hardcore/punk-gigs always try very hard to arrange things as good as possible. Hardcore-punx in general are not beasty troublemakers people tend to see in them. In fact upcoming aggression is always handled with care and controlled from the inside through discussion and if necessary intimidation. Also the straight-edge ideas that blew a positive wind through our scene, caused a lot of people to leave the nihilistic ‘77 mentality and to criticize society in a more constructve way. Many of us are not the boozers or the junkies moral majority wants to see in us. It’s only a pity that sometimes loners, who think that acting tough should be their one goal in life, are identified too late.

This was what happened in ‘De Marbel’ on May 31st. A drunk poseur thought it was necessary to damage a few cars. Such things are totally useless and that he was driven away for questioning only seemed logic. The forces of law being yelled at is also not abnormal. But as where in big cities such little things are left for what they are, the police in Tielt and their friends from the surroundings thought it necessary to show their strength. An hour after the facts, a police-force, out of proportion compared with what happened, blocked the street with several vans. People who were outside getting some air fled back into the hall to avoid the truncheon-swirling cops. It was evident that they, by acting so provocative (yelling, shouting, pointing and swirling their truncheons nervously, making stupid remarks, intolerance,…) could expect a reaction. A lot of people were held for hours in police-vans that were too small and over-heated, not aloud to say a word, without being able to go for a pee. Handcuffs were shut real tight, someone was kicked,… And all this for really stupid reasons (e.g. an identity-card that couldn’t be read). Nobody was searched for drugs! Nevertheless this is a reason, locals think, the hall is being closed. Nobody in the police-force could or would tell us the purpose of the action. Everybody was considered a potential criminal. To me it’s clear that this repressive action only had one goal (that had been decided for a long time but for which a reason was to be found): the closing of this concert-hall so that this subculture was depraved, withdrawn from it’s support and no longer could live there. Another example of the tolerance our little country is so well known for…

Why am I telling you all this ? It’s obvious isn’t it ? To prevent that things like this happen again! The pub was reopened after a month … luckily, but the hall is to stay closed. There are some (very) good halls in our scene. Let’s try to keep them. Organisers, try as hard as you can to keep violence out of your halls. Take care the authorities don’t find any reason to take actions against your hall or your audience. We gotta stigmatize everyone that’s out to make trouble and if problems occur, we gotta solve them all together … Bands/fanzines condemn every form of violence! Violence sucks! Unity’s the key!

The above may sound a bit negative but our Belgian scene is still one of the best. I had the opportunity to visit some other European countries during my holidays and I sometimes found a much more violent attitude than over here. For instance a lot of people in the UK scene still seem to think violence is a must … Ridiculous how skateboard-showing psychobilly’s wearing baseball-caps and ‘Sisters of Mercy’ on their jackets, hit everything that comes within their range. Repulsive how two ‘sisters of evil’ mindlessly wondering in a nihilistic ‘77-atmosphere kick and hit ordinary trashers just ‘for fun’. Mötley Crue-loving headbangers posing on stage for a quarter of an hour before diving – haha, jumping is what I’d call it – from the stage. Poor, poor London … But what do you expect, putting rockstars on stage … eh, stupids?

Tilt! #3 – oct 87 [also: De Marbel closed down…]

‘Lärm’, photo courtesy of Stephane Bruyaux

Jos & Menno (‘Lärm’) photographed by Kockie) [spot the scenesters in the background… ;-)]]

10/25/2009

86-05-10 (Roxy) Indirekt – Stalag 17 – Vortex – X-Creta – Deviant Gedrag – Hate Crew – Statskirielja

>>‘Kankerkommando’ started the evening. It was OK but it was clear the band still needed a bit of work. The same goes for ‘Deviant Gedrag’ although I did like them. Slow punk; every song reminded me of something well-known. ‘Hate Crew’ ensured the fun for the local trashers. Simple, fast songs and above all good vocals. Then we were ready for ‘Indirekt’. Terrific! You just can ‘t keep quiet with a band like this. When I got away from the stage for a moment, there was murmur about a 75°C performance or something like that and the beer-bottles were passed around. […] Later we also got to see ‘Stalag 17’. Everyone had gotten tired and sluggish, which wasn’t to the liking of the drummer (“Has someone died or what?”). Their music wasn’t bad but the whole was messed up by terribly weak singing.<<

‘D.R.O.L.’ #10 (’86; Belgian fanzine)

Drol #10 over Dendermonde 10mei86 x

Apparently the ‘bill’ changed a bit the evening itself…

We’ve always felt very appreciated and very welcome in Belgium. I just remember the great atmosphere in the ‘Roxy’ at that time. Here’s a picture I found from that night. Looking at the chord my fingers are forming, I think it was shot during our song ‘Nacht und Nebel’…

Ruud Sweering (www.myspace.com/indirekt)

Indirekt x‘Indirekt’ (Nl): Guitarist Ruud Sweering & vocalist Anneke Knip …and a Smurf-punk on the bass-drum ;-) (pic kindly donated by Ruud)

A couple of months before I’d seen ‘Indirekt’ live for the 1st time (at the ‘De Waag’ in Antwerp)… That evening I got infected with their Dutch-spoken singalong punkrock for life. There was a huge pile-up on stage that night during their songs ‘Klitten’ & ‘Faust’ (ending up in their version of children’s rhyme ‘deze vuist op deze vuist’)… And, even today, I still feel as militant as in those days when I hear them burst out in ‘H.E.L.’ (‘onder de blauwe hemel’…). It speaks for itself I was very pleased to meet them here again. ‘Indirekt’ were Ruud Sweering (guitar), Anneke Knip (vocals), Rick Blom (bass) and Jeroen Hennis (drums). Niels De Wit was probably their stand-in drummer here.

Brob

No, not ‘Indirekt’ but the – at that time – snotty punx (smile) of  ‘Statskirielja’: guitarist Dirk ‘Torre’ Tondeleir – drummer Koen Schepens – singer Martine – bassist Ludwig ‘Ludde’ De Bock (see also 1st Smurfpunx-fest) (thanx to Ludde for the pic)

Some photos by Serge Harvent:

‘Hate Crew’ (1st incarnation); L=>R: Guido, Mone, Kris & Guy (Scalle in the corner)

‘X-Creta’: Erwin Vanmol (guitar), Erik Steppe (drums), Marc Maes (vocals), Peter Reynaert (bass)

‘Deviant Gedrag’: Izzy (guitar), Dirk Jans (drums), Danny (vocals), Jo ? (bass)

‘Indirekt’: Ruud (guitar), Niels (drums), Anneke (vocals), Rick (bass)

‘Vortex’: Marco (guitar), Vincent ‘Fax’ (drums), Steve (vocals), JP (bass)

‘Stalag 17′: Brian McCann (guitar), Joe Carey (vocals), Petesy Burns (drums), ‘Big’ Jim Gilmore (guitar)

Well, we arrived on the European continent as a completely changed band line-up and kicked off our tour at the Roxy in Dendermonde, but that was the Smurfpunx part of the story, a paint-brush sweep of the picture that was ‘Stalag 17’. So, let’s paint a bigger picture….

Belfast was dead, the Harp Bar had closed and all the local punk heroes had gone to London to ride the New Wave. Rumours of punk dying were very exaggerated though… It was just waking up, in it’s real form and the crowds at the early gigs had ideas of doing their own thing. ‘Stalag 17’ were still plugging away, covering punk favourites, while building up a set of their own material, implacably anti-establishment, playing where they could get gigs, probably the important one being in the Belfast Anarchy Centre, supporting other anarcho-punk bands ‘Crass’, ‘Annie Anxiety’ and ‘Poison Girls’. From this platform, ‘Stalag 17’ forged ties with like-minded Belfast anarchists in Just Books Anarchist Bookshop. They faced a great deal of hostility, wherever they played.

With the impetus built from the Anarchy Centre, punks got established venues in and around Belfast, who didn’t want us, but they needed us, as Belfast was so polarised, few people went into the city, ‘Stalag 17’ playing alongside local bands such as ‘Asylum’ and ‘Toxic Waste’, encouraging stalwarts of the anarcho-punk scene to play Belfast. Bands such as ‘Conflict’, ‘Subhumans’ and ‘Dirt’ travelled over to a thriving scene. ‘Conflict’ offered ‘Stalag 17’ a place on their label Mortarhate’s compilation >We Don’t Want Your Fucking War< and the interest created by that compilation led to a split 12” with ‘Toxic Waste’, >The Truth Will Be Heard<.

The band toured Scotland and England and Wales, over the next few years with varying success, releasing a demo >From Belfast with Love<. During the rest of 1985 the band recorded a track for the Words of Warning label’s first release >You Are Not Alone< alongside ‘Oi Polloi’, then going on to a three-week tour in Europe, in 1986. This busy year also saw the band recording tracks for the >We Will be Free< album, featuring Toxic Waste and Asylum. All through this time the band were working with others to set up an autonomous centre in Belfast. Read about it here: http://www.warzonecollective.com [There’s some videos in the comments.]

Oh yes, Dendermonde! The first gig of a tour where we had to completely rebuild the band, having lost a drummer and guitarist. Locals Werner [Exelmans, Hageland Hardcore] (tour-manager) and Gunter [Wiebel] (beer-adviser) were great fun. On the day of the gig, Gunter brought us to some local bars and introduced us to Duvel beer. Unable to resist a challenge we got much drunker than we intended and turned up to a gig where 3 Irish bands were listed. We lost ‘Asylum’ in England and ‘Wee Joe and the Slithers’ never existed. It was a joking reference to our new line-up – someone, somewhere took it seriously!

The Smurfpunx gave us more beer and we watched the other bands, watching with great interest, the reaction of the crowd. The forming of crowd-circles was surreal and still the most unusual thing I’ve ever seen at a gig. It was fantastic to watch. I still wonder sometimes if Gunter had put something in the beer and we imagined it all! It was a long and very hot night, so maybe they were saving energy? Unfortunately for us, the fashion in European punk was speed and thrash, so some of our energy was drained by people shouting for us to “play faster!”. The sound was a bit odd too. Fortunately for us, we met up with people after the gig, who appreciated where we were coming from. I remember being disappointed in the D.R.O.L. review but I also remember some real positives from the gig. The people were fantastic and the daisy-chain dancing…wonderful! It set us up for a real fun tour, as it gave us so much on a positive side.

The band recorded two more demos (>And All the Birdies Sang Fuck This for a Lark< and >Erection 87< [Below, Julia provided a link where it can be downloaded…]). In late 1987 the band folded. The demo >17 from 17< was released after the bands break-up. As life turned full-circle, Petesy, Joe and Mickey reformed the band to play with Steve Ignorant on the Belfast part of his Last Supper tour and as his guest at the Incubate Festival in Tilburg. A bit more notice and we may have met up with some old friends and maybe have done a last ever gig in Dendermonde?

Joe Carey

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