86-05-10 (Roxy) Indirekt – Stalag 17 – Vortex – X-Creta – Deviant Gedrag – Hate Crew – Statskirielja

>>‘Kankerkommando’ started the evening. It was OK but it was clear the band still needed a bit of work. The same goes for ‘Deviant Gedrag’ although I did like them. Slow punk; every song reminded me of something well-known. ‘Hate Crew’ ensured the fun for the local trashers. Simple, fast songs and above all good vocals. Then we were ready for ‘Indirekt’. Terrific! You just can ‘t keep quiet with a band like this. When I got away from the stage for a moment, there was murmur about a 75°C performance or something like that and the beer-bottles were passed around. […] Later we also got to see ‘Stalag 17’. Everyone had gotten tired and sluggish, which wasn’t to the liking of the drummer (“Has someone died or what?”). Their music wasn’t bad but the whole was messed up by terribly weak singing.<<

‘D.R.O.L.’ #10 (’86; Belgian fanzine)

Drol #10 over Dendermonde 10mei86 x

Apparently the ‘bill’ changed a bit the evening itself…

We’ve always felt very appreciated and very welcome in Belgium. I just remember the great atmosphere in the ‘Roxy’ at that time. Here’s a picture I found from that night. Looking at the chord my fingers are forming, I think it was shot during our song ‘Nacht und Nebel’…

Ruud Sweering (

Indirekt x‘Indirekt’ (Nl): Guitarist Ruud Sweering & vocalist Anneke Knip …and a Smurf-punk on the bass-drum ;-) (pic kindly donated by Ruud)

A couple of months before I’d seen ‘Indirekt’ live for the 1st time (at the ‘De Waag’ in Antwerp)… That evening I got infected with their Dutch-spoken singalong punkrock for life. There was a huge pile-up on stage that night during their songs ‘Klitten’ & ‘Faust’ (ending up in their version of children’s rhyme ‘deze vuist op deze vuist’)… And, even today, I still feel as militant as in those days when I hear them burst out in ‘H.E.L.’ (‘onder de blauwe hemel’…). It speaks for itself I was very pleased to meet them here again. ‘Indirekt’ were Ruud Sweering (guitar), Anneke Knip (vocals), Rick Blom (bass) and Jeroen Hennis (drums). Niels De Wit was probably their stand-in drummer here.


No, not ‘Indirekt’ but the – at that time – snotty punx (smile) of  ‘Statskirielja’: guitarist Dirk ‘Torre’ Tondeleir – drummer Koen Schepens – singer Martine – bassist Ludwig ‘Ludde’ De Bock (see also 1st Smurfpunx-fest) (thanx to Ludde for the pic)

Some photos by Serge Harvent:

‘Hate Crew’ (1st incarnation); L=>R: Guido, Mone, Kris & Guy (Scalle in the corner)

‘X-Creta’: Erwin Vanmol (guitar), Erik Steppe (drums), Marc Maes (vocals), Peter Reynaert (bass)

‘Deviant Gedrag’: Izzy (guitar), Dirk Jans (drums), Danny (vocals), Jo ? (bass)

‘Indirekt’: Ruud (guitar), Niels (drums), Anneke (vocals), Rick (bass)

‘Vortex’: Marco (guitar), Vincent ‘Fax’ (drums), Steve (vocals), JP (bass)

‘Stalag 17′: Brian McCann (guitar), Joe Carey (vocals), Petesy Burns (drums), ‘Big’ Jim Gilmore (guitar)

Well, we arrived on the European continent as a completely changed band line-up and kicked off our tour at the Roxy in Dendermonde, but that was the Smurfpunx part of the story, a paint-brush sweep of the picture that was ‘Stalag 17’. So, let’s paint a bigger picture….

Belfast was dead, the Harp Bar had closed and all the local punk heroes had gone to London to ride the New Wave. Rumours of punk dying were very exaggerated though… It was just waking up, in it’s real form and the crowds at the early gigs had ideas of doing their own thing. ‘Stalag 17’ were still plugging away, covering punk favourites, while building up a set of their own material, implacably anti-establishment, playing where they could get gigs, probably the important one being in the Belfast Anarchy Centre, supporting other anarcho-punk bands ‘Crass’, ‘Annie Anxiety’ and ‘Poison Girls’. From this platform, ‘Stalag 17’ forged ties with like-minded Belfast anarchists in Just Books Anarchist Bookshop. They faced a great deal of hostility, wherever they played.

With the impetus built from the Anarchy Centre, punks got established venues in and around Belfast, who didn’t want us, but they needed us, as Belfast was so polarised, few people went into the city, ‘Stalag 17’ playing alongside local bands such as ‘Asylum’ and ‘Toxic Waste’, encouraging stalwarts of the anarcho-punk scene to play Belfast. Bands such as ‘Conflict’, ‘Subhumans’ and ‘Dirt’ travelled over to a thriving scene. ‘Conflict’ offered ‘Stalag 17’ a place on their label Mortarhate’s compilation >We Don’t Want Your Fucking War< and the interest created by that compilation led to a split 12” with ‘Toxic Waste’, >The Truth Will Be Heard<.

The band toured Scotland and England and Wales, over the next few years with varying success, releasing a demo >From Belfast with Love<. During the rest of 1985 the band recorded a track for the Words of Warning label’s first release >You Are Not Alone< alongside ‘Oi Polloi’, then going on to a three-week tour in Europe, in 1986. This busy year also saw the band recording tracks for the >We Will be Free< album, featuring Toxic Waste and Asylum. All through this time the band were working with others to set up an autonomous centre in Belfast. Read about it here: [There’s some videos in the comments.]

Oh yes, Dendermonde! The first gig of a tour where we had to completely rebuild the band, having lost a drummer and guitarist. Locals Werner [Exelmans, Hageland Hardcore] (tour-manager) and Gunter [Wiebel] (beer-adviser) were great fun. On the day of the gig, Gunter brought us to some local bars and introduced us to Duvel beer. Unable to resist a challenge we got much drunker than we intended and turned up to a gig where 3 Irish bands were listed. We lost ‘Asylum’ in England and ‘Wee Joe and the Slithers’ never existed. It was a joking reference to our new line-up – someone, somewhere took it seriously!

The Smurfpunx gave us more beer and we watched the other bands, watching with great interest, the reaction of the crowd. The forming of crowd-circles was surreal and still the most unusual thing I’ve ever seen at a gig. It was fantastic to watch. I still wonder sometimes if Gunter had put something in the beer and we imagined it all! It was a long and very hot night, so maybe they were saving energy? Unfortunately for us, the fashion in European punk was speed and thrash, so some of our energy was drained by people shouting for us to “play faster!”. The sound was a bit odd too. Fortunately for us, we met up with people after the gig, who appreciated where we were coming from. I remember being disappointed in the D.R.O.L. review but I also remember some real positives from the gig. The people were fantastic and the daisy-chain dancing…wonderful! It set us up for a real fun tour, as it gave us so much on a positive side.

The band recorded two more demos (>And All the Birdies Sang Fuck This for a Lark< and >Erection 87< [Below, Julia provided a link where it can be downloaded…]). In late 1987 the band folded. The demo >17 from 17< was released after the bands break-up. As life turned full-circle, Petesy, Joe and Mickey reformed the band to play with Steve Ignorant on the Belfast part of his Last Supper tour and as his guest at the Incubate Festival in Tilburg. A bit more notice and we may have met up with some old friends and maybe have done a last ever gig in Dendermonde?

Joe Carey



  1. All Indirekt’s songs from the old days and even a few new ones have been compiled on a double CD and released by the US label Grand Theft Audio!

    Comment by smurfpunx — 03/19/2010 @ 11:36

  2. Looking at the photo, I can tell it’s Niels drumming. I quit ‘Indirekt’ for a little while. I did play in Dendermonde in 1990 with ‘Antic Hay’ (with Ruud & Rick). [Brob: That gig is listed on the NOT Smurfpunx page.]

    Comment by Jeroen Hennis — 04/05/2011 @ 07:45

  3. For an interview with ‘Hate Crew’ (1987), go to Hate Crew (interview Tilt! #3)

    Comment by smurfpunx — 06/11/2011 @ 10:23

  4. ‘Stalag 17’ – Erection 87 demo
    [released to coincide with the 1987 General Election in the UK]

    Comment by Julia Bleakney — 10/24/2011 @ 08:05

  5. Most of the bands from Northern Ireland (Ulster) were conncted to the Warzone collective and Giro’s social centre. Through these and zines from there, I got acquainted with and inspired (together with other projects elsewhere of course) by them. Julia Bleakney, a volunteer there, and a correspondent at that time linked me to a video-documentary about what they were doing.
    Here’s some more about other bands from up there…

    Comment by Brob Tilt — 10/27/2011 @ 10:45

  6. ‘Deviant Gedrag’ – Yeah Really demo 1986

    Comment by Brob Tilt! — 12/18/2011 @ 09:35

  7. interview ‘Indirekt’ (Total Chaos #2) 1988

    Comment by Brob Tilt! — 06/29/2015 @ 20:11

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