Smurfpunx

09/30/2009

86-12-08 (De Finkel) Senza Sterzo – Manimal – Deviant Gedrag – Brain Disorder

[Sometimes people think a certain concert was organised by Smurfpunx, when it wasn’t…]

This wasn’t a bad gig, although the attendance wasn’t that great if I remember correctly.

‘Manimal’ and ‘Deviant Gedrag’ were good; no memories pop up about ‘Senza Sterzo’; and ‘Brain Disorder’ was the chaotic poseur-band of that skater Thierry ‘Areuh’… [Brob: Areuh Sertyn played for ‘Brain Cancer’…]

Why wasn’ t this organised by Smurfpunx? Look at the date… It was only one week after the first Smurfpunx-concert with ‘Ceresit’ in ‘Netwerk’. It was an ad hoc collaboration with Filip ‘Boule’ Burgelman (‘Indecency’ / ’5Les’) who set up gigs in ‘De Finkel’ [youthcentre in Jette, near Brussels] regurlarly. Filip organised the tour for ‘Manimal’. He probably contacted ‘Mokka’ first for a concert in Aalst but we weren’t able to do it (‘Netwerk’ was not available and ‘De Gele Limonade’ was finished for the time being.).

It was ‘Mokka’s and my intention also to keep a good contact with ‘De Finkel’ [Duco also did the poster for this one.] in case ‘Netwerk’ wouldn’t work out when we were offered interessting acts that were ‘too small’ to fill up ‘Netwerk’. [There was more cooperation later on, as one can see in the concert-list.]

Duco

‘Manimal’ was a Roman HC band consisting of bassist Carmelo Seminara, drummer Fausto Delfini (drums) and guitarists Massimo Iacoponi & Fabio. Their self-titled LP was recorded in April that year and released by Contagio recs. They had already toured Germany with ‘Negazione’ & ‘Indigesti’ in 1985.

Donatella ‘Doda’ Mariotti (bass) played for ‘Senza Sterzo’ (from Pisa), together with Marco (drums), Luciano (guitar) and ‘Mad Jack’ (vocals). If I’m well informed, they only did a demo (7 songs) in 1988.

Brob

NON Smurfpunx (Jette 86)

09/24/2009

87-04-03 (De Marbel) Detonators – Instigators – Deviant Gedrag

Smurfpunx (Tielt 86, Instigators) bis

Tielt, hometown of my band ‘Repulsives’ and where I started my (fan)zine ‘Tilt!’. ‘De Marbel’ was a local pub where (hardcore)punks were wellcome.  There was a small ‘venue’ attached to it where we (and ‘No Numbers’) rehearsed. The guy who ran it, Zak, was also cool about letting us organise concerts there and letting bands sleep over. After a gig there regularly was a nice get-together in the small room above the pub… I remember Bruce and Juan definitely liked Belgian beer.

For some reason the Smurfpunx-collective (which I wasn’t part of yet) didn’t have a place to do that show when they were asked to by the person who did the tour for ‘Detonators’ and ‘Instigators’ so we arranged for them to be able to do it there… This gig took place in ’87, not ’86. ‘Deviant Gedrag’, a very good band that we’d witnessed live already before [Gele Limonade, Aalst, 19 oct 85] was the ‘support’. Nice people that we became friends with and would meet regularly. Also ‘Instigators’ [Jungle Of Joy, Antwerp, 12 dec 87 (Instigators)] and even ‘Detonators’ [Netwerk, Aalst, 4 may 89 (Detonators)] would be back for more Smurfpunx-concerts.

‘Boule’ Burgelman and ‘Bollie’ Nijs interviewed Bruce Hartnell, guitarist/vocalist of ‘The Detonators’ (He was originally the bassist but switched when the singer left.) for Onno Hesselink’s zine Peace Or Anihilation (#10) that night. They were a solid punk-rock band from the Los Angeles area. Besides frontman Bruce, there was Juan Camacho (guitar), ‘Korky’ Ollerton (drums) and Pat(rick) Fargher (bass). After this tour the latter 2 were replaced by drummer Karl Fowler and bassist Darren Baker. Their LP Balls To You was recorded later (Spring ’88) with Scott Adamo on drums and Bryson Carter on bass… On their website (http://www.freewebs.com/thedetonatorshc/), there’s a bit of history which shows they already had quite some things accomplished already…

Brob

Nowadays, I work as a audio-engineer at an opera-house in Eugene, Oregon. The only other guy still around from those days is Juan but he’s not playing music anymore.

I ran into Cuzzy from the ‘Instigators’ when he was on tour as a roadie and his act played my hall. He’s a drum-tech for the ‘Sex Pistols’. Tez runs as label in England and Mooney is the photographer for England’s national football-team…

Bruce Hartnell

Andy Turner interviewed in the Belgian ‘zine ‘Total Chaos’ #2

‘Instigators’, pictures by Kockie:

‘Instigators’ line-up here: Andy (Andrew) ‘Trimble’ Turnbull on bass, Andy ‘Tez’ Turner on vocals, Steve ‘Cuzzy’ Curran on drums & Simon Mooney on guitar.

Instigators Marbel 3
Instigators Marbel 2

Dirk Jans, ‘Deviant Gedrag’ (photo -probably- by Veerle Brion):

From the ‘Instigators/Detonators in Europe’ diary in Problem Child #4:

>> The reason: Communication; giving the ‘Detonators’ [Bruce Hartnell (vocals & guitar), Juan Camacho (guitar), Eric Cappucchi (drums), Pat Fargher (bass); the latter 2 left the band after this tour] the chance to tour extensively through Europe without all the monetary hassles usually associated with crossing the Atlantic. For ‘Instigators’ it was an opportunity to re-visit places, meet friends again and to re-open old wounds, etc.

Road-crew/babysitter: Andrew ‘Baz’ Barrow * Tour-crew: Reiner Mettner/Albert Asthma

[…] We’d lost the part of our map with Belgium on it so it took us a while to find this place, it didn’t help that it wasn’t signposted until about 10 miles outside the actual town but we found it and the show was another goodie. We broke our first stage of the tour, almost half the stage caved in, leaving us no too much room to move around, so we resorted to having a stage-diving competition in the middle of The Blood is On Your Hands. There were some brill leaps, some quite insane. WE were ‘fined’ after the show for drinking £50’s worth of beer we shouldn’t have and perhaps didn’t. <<

09/18/2009

86-09-07 (Nieuwe Madelon) Toxic Reasons – K.G.B. – Ear Damage – Repulsives – Hate Crew

Smurfpunx (Aalst 86, Toxic Reasons)

86-09-07-toxic-reasons-kgb-bis

This was the first passage of my bands ‘Repulsives’ on a ‘Smurfpunx’ concert. We only existed for about a year but must’ve made an impression on people and the guys from ‘Hate Crew’ (which we’ld played with a month before) invited us for this one. As you can see we were not on the flyer but we definitely played (see pictures). It was memorable and the start of much more to come. I remember driving around in Aalst in our drummer Dirk’s mom’s car on a sunny sunday-afternoon, not finding the venue straight away. It was on the market-place and looked rather commercial… It was our first gig with foreign, touring bands. And which ones! ‘Toxic Reasons’! I also arranged to do an interview with ‘K.G.B.’ after buying their tape from Hannes…

The German (Tübingen) punk-rock band ‘K.G.B.’ (“Kein Grund zur Beruhigung” = “No Reason to Be Calm”) or “Korrupt Gierig Bestechlich” = Corrupt, Greedy, Bribable”) had played with ‘T.R.’ earlier in the US and now toured with them in Europe. Line-up was Hannes Koerber (vocals, guitar), Uli Reiße-Gross (guitar), Ralf Wettemann (drums) & Lampe (bass).

‘Toxic Reasons’ and their fast but melodic HardCore-punk were already  legendary then… I think playing in the band at that time (the LP Bullets For You was just out) were Bruce Stuckey (lead guitar/vocals), David ‘Tufty’ Clough (bass/vocals; also in ‘Zero Boys’), Jimmy Joe ‘JJ’ Pearson (drums/vocals) and Terry Howe (guitar/vocals).

Brob

<<‘Hate Crew’ sounded bad; the sound in this venue was poorly mixed (Stel wasn’t there!) and Dirk & me thought the guitars weren’t tuned right. ‘Repulsives’ were, as usual, very good, very ‘Americanic’. They simply need to put their song ‘(No More) Fascist Skins’ out as a 7”. After them came ‘Ear Damage’: I refuse to keep reviewing them (play less). […] The German band ‘K.G.B.’ play ordinary but fast rock; don’t wanna say they were bad but there was little atmosphere. Then, finally, another American band at work: ‘Toxic Reasons’. A little while before their 2nd guitarist had left so they were down to a trio here on stage. Still decent.>>

‘Zonder Toestemming’ # 2 (’86; Belgian fanzine)

Some pictures of ‘Repulsives’…

Repulsives Madelon (Stinky)Stinky contemplating how to play someone else’s guitar; with Dirk on drums firing him on

Repulsives Madelon (Disorder)‘Fane Disorder’ fully into the skateboard rage; under the watchful eye of Kris ‘Hate Crew’

Repulsives Madelon (Brob)Brob totally concentrated on his amazing fingerpicking ;-)

All I remember is that Belgian beer was good… ;-)

David ‘Tufty’ Clough, bass & vocals for ‘Toxic Reasons’

Hannes from ‘K.G.B.’ & Danny Rau (No Mercy tours) set that tour up I think… Terry ‘Hollywood’ Howe (R.I.P.) from ‘Zero Boys’ didn’t like the touring life much & quit in Amsterdam.

‘JJ’ Pearson, drums for ‘Toxic Reasons’

Photos of ‘Toxic Reasons’ & ‘K.G.B.’ (taken by Dirk Ceustermans):86-09-07 Toxic Reasons bass (Dirk C)86-09-07 Toxic Reasons guitar & drum (Dirk C) (-)86-09-07 Toxic Reasons drum (Dirk C) (-)

86-09-07 K.G.B. (Dirk C)86-09-07 K.G.B.' (Dirk C)86-09-07 K.G.B.'' (Dirk C) (-)

also: 86-09-07 (Nieuwe Madelon) Repulsives – Hate Crew (extra photos)

09/12/2009

87-10-11 (Netwerk) Lethal Gospel – No Pigs – Creep Insanity – SixtyNine

Filed under: Netwerk, Aalst — Tags: , , , , , , — smurfpunx @ 08:41

Smurfpunx (Aalst 87, Lethal Gospel) bis

Kockie gave me (Brob) some pictures of ‘No Pigs’. My own band ‘Repulsives’ had played with them in ’86, near Antwerp, and they had impressed me for sure; especially the bassplayer was manic. That’s also the feeling I get when I see these shots back. The line-up at that time was: vocalist Maarten Luijendijk, bassist Guy Pinhas, guitarist Nils Koning & drummer Robert van der Meyden. Here’s the action…

for extras: Netwerk, Aalst, 11 oct 87 (Lethal Gospel, No Pigs, Creep Insanity) photos

[more photos below…]

One band that I fondly remember is ‘Lethal Gospel’ (LG) from San Francisco. Mokka and Brob went to visit them over there [Brob: after their 3rd tour; which we organised]. Smurfpunx organised three concerts in ‘Netwerk’ for them: one in October 1987 and another in September 1988 [Duco forget to mention the 3rd in 1989; the flyer features a drawing by Mattx that shows Mokka & Brob.]. Although I did help to organise the second one, I never attended it because I quit the scene rather abruptly in June 1988. ‘Lethal Gospel’ brought a refreshing repertoire of hardcore-punk and blues. They first sent a demo-tape to Mokka and we decided to give it a try. And rightly so, because it was definitely a hit among the audience and one of the better and more memorable gigs. After that, if I’m not mistaken, they had other Belgian gigs in Leuven or (and) Jette.

The LG blokes stayed at my parents’ house, then in a large orchard a bit outside of Aalst, for four days during a pause in their European tour which was great fun for both my folks and myself. Before their first gig, I went to pick them up with my dad at ‘De Gele Limonade’ one rainy and foggy evening. They were interesting company. The laconic drummer – whose name I don’t remember – seemed like the one who managed the tour and was more a Jewish university liberal type. The bass-player – whose name I don’t recall either – was more of a slick Midwest fitness and sports type and a quite silent lad. And then – tatataaa – there was the band’s front man with his steely blue eyes: singer-lead guitarist Mattx Bergren, then looking, all in leather as he was, like a mixture of Lemmy and Viggo Mortensen in his role of Aragorn.

Back in the car, after he had seen Mattx, my bemused dad hissed between his teeth: “If they puke all over the living-room and throw the TV set through the window, you’re out as well!”. :-) Once home, I remember my mother saying: “You’re most welcome, lads, but you smell bad. It must have been a long road. The shower and towels are upstairs.” During their stay they were great company. I won’t forget the sight of leather-clad Mattx with his heavy metal bullet belt helping my mother washing the dishes and the creaky king-size bed that once belonged to my great-grandmother that they had to share, with a bulky mattress where you rolled off. My dad took them to visit Gent as well. Usually, bands that came from further away stayed overnight in sleeping-bags either in ‘Netwerk’ or ‘De Gele Limonade’, or were put up at private homes or flats like we did with LG. Putting up bands in hotels was somewhat ‘not done’, associated as this was with rock-stars (which today sounds stupid to me… ) and too expensive (which was true given our low-budget DIY standards… ).

By the way, I had a hoot when I saw that the first things that comes out when I did a Google search for ‘Lethal Gospel’, is an article by a theology professor about ‘Islamic terrorism’. Mattx and the other blokes would have loved the irony I guess.

I think on the first ‘Lethal Gospel’ gig, ‘No Pigs’ did show up. The other acts on the second LG gig (1988), ‘Ripcord’ [see earlier gig] and ‘Political Asylum’ [singer Ramsey was a good friend of Mokka & Brob], were both good be it musically quite different bands that we already knew and nice blokes too. [Brob’s second band ‘Yuppies’ Death’ also played.] Brob, myself and the bass-player (a cousin of Brob) of ‘Repulsives’ visited ‘Ripcord’ in Weston-Super-Mare in 1987, and I had seen ‘Political Asylum’ in Lübeck once. But why the heck we agreed to put on rubbish like ‘Sixty-Nine’ (the name speaks volumes…), a moronic metal-band from Brussels made up of types with ‘German-football-player-haircuts’, as a support act on LG’s first gig in 1987 is still beyond my understanding.

Well, there is something to say about that. I remember that there was a constant tension and discussion within Smurfpunx about how to deal with that metal and crossover thing that came up at the time. There were people who were into that and wanted more metal and crossover on the programme. I will not name and blame, and I do not go scot-free either for giving in thinking to please. Personally, I liked ‘Motörhead’ and ‘Gore’ (an instrumental metal band from Venlo) and wanted to give it a try. But once we got involved with the likes of ‘Sixty-Nine’, ‘Cyclone’ and similar bands, it soon became obvious that it was a recipe for disaster. OK, they did their thing, we did ours and should have kept the metal out. For one, our audience changed and not for the better. It also contributed to a wider malaise that eventually resulted in my departure.

Duco

Nowadays Mattx runs his own company ‘Reliable Distribution Inc’: “a free magazine and promotional materials distributor with locations in California, Nevada and on The West Coast”. He’s also a family-man as you can see…

LG - Daddy Mattx

The other day I googled ‘Lethal Gospel’ just for shits and grins, and came across this article. It’s great to hear such fond memories. I played alto-saxophone for LG from 1984 through 1991. For various (and regrettable) reasons I was unable to come along on our 1987 and 1988 European tours but finally made it in 1989. I’m mighty glad I did because it remains one of the most enjoyable experiences of my life. I also remember Brob and Mokka coming to visit California – that would be the spring of 1989 [Brob: summer of ’89; right before the 3rd tour that I organised for the biggest part], if memory serves.

Those are excellent descriptions of everybody, especially of Mattx and the Lemmy/Viggo resemblance. Right on the money, I’d say! The “laconic drummer” you mentioned would be Dan Seelig – haven’t heard from him for years; I assume he’s still out there drumming someplace. As for the bass-player, there was a different one on each tour but the one you described is most likely Fred LaRose – again, I’ve lost touch with him.

Ironically, IMHO the band reached its musical pinnacle in the years following those tours. After numerous personnel-changes we reoganized with a new rhythm section consisting of John Munger on bass and Rob Sham on percussion, both superb musicians, especially Rob, who could pick up practically any instrument and master it in short order.  I believe he’s now with a band called ‘Pie Rats’. We recorded a wealth of great material which, to the best of my knowledge, sadly remains unreleased.

As I was rather ‘butt-swamped’ with work and school, I left the band in 1991 and barely picked up the horn again for 10 years. In 2001 I joined another group, this time on tenor-sax. Since then I’ve played with several other bands in the Bay Area and in Reno, NV, where I now live. LG, meanwhile, continued to do some short tours and play local gigs, but eventually everyone went their separate ways.

It was heartwarming to read your article after all these years. 20 years ago it wouldn’t, of course, have been possible to see something like this, and it gives me a renewed appreciation of the effort you guys had to go through to organize a tour in those days – all the letters, postcards and costly phone-calls at odd hours over sometimes tenuous connections. How did we ever get along without email, ‘Skype’ and ‘Facebook’?

In any case, thanks again for posting. [Brob: that was Duco]

Dave ‘Papa’ Cherry (www.pighead.org)

[Here’s a bit from the first letter I got from the drummer of ‘Lethal Gospel’  that gives an idea of how things went then. It’s written on stationery of their ‘Salmon Eye Records’ label (San Francisco); the beginning of years of collaboration:]

My band ‘Lethal Gospel’ is touring Europe in sep/oct to promote the release of our 3rd album. We have some shows booked but at this point, none of them are in Belgium. We would really like to play there so I was hoping you might be able to do something for us. Describing our music, I would have to say it’s hardcore, roxy music, not thrash but most enjoyable. I’m sure you would like it alot. We are touring the usual way, not asking for a lot of money, not bringing much equipment. So maybe you can help with rental/borrowing eh? Write us or call collect after midnight US West Coast Time.

Dan Seelig (personal communication, spring ’87)

Can’t remember much of the concert in Netwerk… I dó know that there was some commotion about ‘SixtyNine’, because of their more metal oriented attitude. ‘Creep Insanity’ did want to build a bridge between metal and hardcore (trash ?), but I think that by the time we really had a set together, the scene was somewhat down-and-out. We didn’t get to do a lot of shows….

Kris joined us later, when ‘Hate Crew’ had split up. Peter De Zutter [guitarist] still plays (solid rock). Don’t think Bart (Bassie) [bassplayer] does… Myself, I got into jazz later and went to study music: first in Antwerp (‘Jazz Studio’) and after that the Conservatory in Gent. When I was about 25 I got a form of pneumothorax that was recurring (I had about 8 and got surgery for it) so I had to stop playing music (dragging about drum-kits was no longer an option). I dug into developing websites and later started programming (Flash/Flex/Actionscript) and teaching, etc.

Peter G. (a.k.a. Rabbit)

<<Everything started at 2 p.m. First of was ‘Sixty Nine’. A bit nervous but all of them first-class musicians as would turn out. [Brob: Some of them were in ‘Channel Zero’ later on.] They played very fast trash with alternating rhythms. The audience was immediately enthusiastic, and halfway their set the singer couldn’t restrain and dived into the crowd himself. After 2 or 3 encores, it was ‘Creep Insanity’s turn. We were quite twitchy because it was our first big gig. The guitar was out of tune and after the initial song the drummer already got a nervous breakdown (joke) [Brob: That’s Rabbit himself.]. The audience was so excited that they fell asleep, and so did the bass-player. Not a very successful performance although some were content. The stage was cleared for the 3rd band: ‘No Pigs’, from the Netherlands. To me they sounded chaotic but the crowd seemed to like ‘em. Most people weren’t quite awake ‘cause there wasn’t a lot of stagedivin’ and so going on. Next up was the American band ‘Lethal Gospel’. They played punk-rock with a bit of hardcore from time to time. They were far from bad, on the contrary. The guitarist/singer was the rough type (unshaven), the bassist looked more like Rambo and the drummer had a fantastic time until his snare and the pedal of the kick-drum went broken. While replacing the latter, the guitarist played a tune on his own (about a joint he couldn’t roll). A very successful concert; also the crowd kept shouting for encores. After that, all went their own ways to prepare for school or whatever, the next day…>>

‘W.O.M.’ #2 (’87; Belgian ‘Trash-Hardcore zine’)

‘Creep Insanity’ [must be ’88]: Kris (ex ‘Hate Crew’, vocals), Peter ‘Rabbit’ Ginneberge (drums), Peter De Zutter (guitar), Bart ‘Bassie’ Van Haele (bass)

Nils

Robert

87-10-11 No Pigs (Guy) @ NetwerkGuy

[photographed by Kockie]

No Pigs (vox) (87 question)Maarten

No Pigs (bass) (87 question) cutGuy

09/05/2009

Failure?

Filed under: Ideology — Tags: , , , — smurfpunx @ 14:48

From the ‘Dirty Scums’ website:

A few young people from Aalst founded a hardcore-combo that was named ‘Nozem’ at first, later ‘Censured’ and finally baptised ‘Hate Crew’. Around the turn of the year ‘87-‘88 the Belgian record-label ‘Punk Etc.’ released their lp ‘Silent Rage’ (that sold about 2000 copies). In july the band toured Germany [organised by Brob] but without 2nd guitarist Duco. “A lot of regretable things have happened in a short time.”, he starts his explanation. “The members of ‘Hate Crew’ regularly organised concerts, together with a bunch of other people, under the name ‘Smurfpunx’, mostly in ‘Netwerk’ in Aalst. We aimed at a expansion of the punk-movement but it looks like this has failed. We saw a lot of very young people who only came to have fun and have quite vague ideas about socia-political matters, who act semi-racist and semi-sexist, etc. That has created conflict in the group, i.e. about the loss of ideals. In general I saw the hardcore-movement heading for a schisma: the hard core will never be destroyed.”

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If someone asks me “Would you do it again?”, I’ld answer: “Sure”. Would I do it the same way? Nope.

We made a *big* mistake leaving the metal and crossover rubbish in, partially to please those in Smurfpunx who were into that, partially because we naïvely assumed that it could widen our audience and expand the base for our values. Instead the opposite happened. It was a Trojan Horse, and thereby I mean both the computer-virus and the old Greek myth.

On the other hand, when I see that bands like ‘MDC’ and the Blitz squat in Oslo are still around after almost a generation it confirms the above: that a hard core did survive.

Duco

Duco’s comment where he hackles the apathy of metal-heads is the known criticism on our musical friends: that they never became political comrades… The ‘Dead Kennedys’ phrased that strikingly: “Will the punks loose their education or will the metal-heads finally learn?”.

A flyer from that era contains the text: “Don’t say that you’re against the arms-race when you buy those ‘mayor’ records’ & ‘and by the way: aren’t bands like ‘Nuclear Assault’ and ‘MOD’ fascists? And on another one it says: “DIY not…” with a bunch of labels listed. I think that fitted the ideology.

Stefan Joosten

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Those few years were an inspiring ‘anything can happen’ time but I quit when the atmosphere got spoiled and I started to think it had become a faint decoction of itself. I had another idea of Punk. Still have. The Aalst scene was super in the beginning but it destroyed itself gradually and to be honest it didn’t deserve anything else. It had become a wrongful, smug and moralising little club…preaching to the converted and terribly narrow-minded. What remains are a pile of good records and that’s more than enough. Still, I look back at it with pleasure…good memories…

Bart Demey

89-06-10 (Netwerk) False Prophets – Victims Family – Snuff – Dirty Scums

Filed under: Netwerk, Aalst — Tags: , , , , , , — smurfpunx @ 14:39

Smurfpunx (Aalst 89, False Prophets) PRESS

cf.: Netwerk, Aalst, 6 oct 90 (False Prophets)

Smurfpunx have a very good name as organisers of punk- and hardcore-concerts but it was ages ago when they asked us, ‘The Dirty Scums’, again for a gig . As usual it took place in ‘Netwerk’ in Aalst and the organisation was great, again, at last. Is it so difficult for people to organise a concert? Just make clear agreements with the bands, take care of a decent P.A. and some light, make some publicity in advance, and off you go. A pity it doesn’t happen more. As a band who’s played a respectable number of gigs, it starts to become difficult to find the necessary energy when it turns out an organiser has messed up. But we’re wandering off: this time there wàs a good organisation, and also great bands. The average hardcore-crowd does however tend to become lazy though…

Pik

I can’t tell much about the concerts of ‘False Prophets’ in Belgium because I was in the original ‘False Prophets’, which broke up in 1987. The re-formed version that did this show [tour] contained only one original member – lead-singer Stephan Ielpi – and none of the musicians who wrote songs like ‘Taxidermist’, ‘Scorched Earth’, ‘Blind Obedience’ and ‘Faith’.

So in effect, people were getting something like the version of the ‘Clash’ without Mick Jones and Topper Headon. If you liked it, you should hear what the original band sounded like. Check out the ‘Blind Roaches and Fat Vultures’ album on ‘Alternative Tentacles’. It contains the first ‘False Prophets’ album, the early singles and several unreleased songs.

A revived ‘False Prophets’ has done several shows in New York over the last three years; with Stephan on vocals, Nick Marden from the ‘Stimulators’ on bass, original bassist Steve Wishnia switching to guitar and Eric Blitz on drums.

If you want to ask about my other experiences, I’ve got a million stories and philosophies, been a musician and writer and radical journalist since I was a teenager and I’m 54 now. Yeah, a lot of great things came out of punk but people got too obsessed with the purity of the uniform. I’m not into hipster subcultures and there’s a big difference between the theatrics you can do in art and the practical things you need to deal with in political organizing. (Both are necessary.)

Steve Wishnia

‘False Prophets’ were fantastic. Very unusual for the HC/punk-scene: violin and synths (6 people on stage) – but all very well integrated in the rest of their music; no ‘doom’. The vocalist is a real mass-manipulator (in a positive sense): he was constantly talking to the audience, said very intelligent things, changed costume all the time and used all kinds of props (from a big suitcase) to illustrate the songs. A real spectacle, a look-and-listen-show. One of the more intelligent, honest and sincere bands from NYC.

‘Victims Family’ was marvellous (to cut things short)! This 1989 tour (two months) was their 1st time in Europe; it was set up by Konkurrent (the Amsterdam record-label). Their drummer Devon VrMeer had left the band so Eric Strand came along to fill in (on some of the songs roadie Tim(othy) ‘Bucky’ Solyan jumped in, after this tour he would replace Eric). ‘Snuff’ from London was supporting them. (see: victimsfamily.com). Larry Boothroyd (bass-player) and Eric brought their girlfriends, and then there was Tim and Ralph Spight (guitar & vocals). The driver/roadie was Gigs (drummer for ‘Visions Of Change’ / ‘Joyce McKinney Experience’).

‘Snuff’ played very melodic HC and were really good.

Brob

Anthony Sepulveda replaced Steve W. [who quit in 1988 and didn’t do the European tours] and was the ‘False Prophets’ bassist in Belgium, etc. There’s a good history of the band on the YouTube channel (youtube.com/falseprophetslive) that Anthony and I created. Stephan Ielpi is out in San Francisco now and guitarist Steve Taylor, who also played on all the European tours, has written a book called ‘False Prophet: Field Notes from the Punk Rock Underground’. If anyone has a video of our show with ‘Victims Family’ (one of my favorite bands!): we will post it on the ‘False Prophets’ Youtube channel.

Debra Adele (‘False Prophets’ guitarist)

One of the best concerts I ever went to in my whole life. Stephan was a real showman (‘bête de scène’, we say in French), the audience was hypnotised by his performance (I certainly was) and the musicians were excellent. I had the occasion to discuss with Debra and him after the concert: these mere few minutes also showed me the human quality of those people. That’s also a memory that I have from those years and the people that were near to me: the human quality! A lot of simple and honest people, capable of putting their own problems aside and try the best they can (‘se couper en 4’) to help one or more mates with their needs. I think that those things haven’t really changed from that point of view; in any case: the few active people today in Lille tend to work in harmony – even if the scene has become a bit smaller, there is always some solidarity that stays – that’s what punk is about.

Steph Ll.

I remember the gig. It was on our first ever tour of Europe with the original 3 piece. The tour was organised by the Konkurrent.

Duncan (drummer/singer for ‘Snuff’)

‘Snuff’ (Simon – Duncan – Andy); picture by Sned

‘Victims Family’ were touring with ‘Snuff’ and we (Karen, my girlfriend at the time and myself) knew Giggs the driver (who played in ‘Bad Beach’, ‘Visions Of Change’, ‘Joyce McKinney Experience’) so we blagged along for the ride, after visiting our friend Frank in Leiden. Saw them in Eindhoven, Groningen, Nijmegen,…and stayed in Amsterdam every night with Marcel (from ‘B.G.K.’, Konkurrent label, etc.). The Aalst gig was the last of the tour that we were at, I think we’d have then gone to Liège but I am guessing now… It was ‘Snuff’s first tour abroad and they were so excited and a great laugh. I saw Simon [Brob: the orginal guitarist/vocalist] the other month actually [2010] with his band ‘Southport’, great guy, hasn’t changed a bit either.

Sned

One of the unforgettables! I had seen the ‘False Prophets’ in W’wijk (ChiChiClub) but here they had a big stage and this is a band that needed this space. Fantastic spectacle!

Victor ‘W.C.F.’

First Smurfpunx show I ever attended, unaware of their awesome previous gigs but more than happy to finally mix in with a crowd that shared my thoughts, beliefs and most importantly musical preferences. The only band I actually heard music from at that time (I was 15 and had been chewing on metal for a number of years) was ‘Dirty Scums’ being a local band. Can’t remember much about the rest but being able to buy tapes, zines, LPs, etc. and talking about it with people I just met, was a big change…

Tom Van Hauwaert

‘Victims Family’ live at Netwerk & out on the town in Aalst (pics by Sned)

09/03/2009

86-12-19 (Netwerk) Ceresit – Repulsives – Dawn Of Liberty – [No Pigs] – [S.C.A.]

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Smurfpunx (Aalst 86, Repulsives) 2nd

Smurfpunx (Aalst 86, Repulsives) Duco

As told in Smurfpunx start in Netwerk this was the first Smurfpunx-festival in Netwerk. But it wasn’t the first gig for my ‘Repulsives’ in Aalst because we had already supported ‘Toxic Reasons’ on their tour with ‘K.G.B.’ there a few months before. Yep, our friends in ‘Hate Crew’ and Smurfpunx must’ve been big fans…

I didn’t know ‘Ceresit’ before but we were told they were from Berlin, which was far away and known for its lively scene. The band consisted of Marcel Fery (vocals & guitar), Sven (guitar), Ralf Hermann (drums), Marcus Renner (keyboards) & Daniel (bass). I bought their album Three Gallows from them that day.

‘No Pigs’, according to Duco, didn’t show up – which was a pity cause we played with these Amsterdammers before. Anarcho-punx ‘Dawn Of Liberty’ (formerly ‘Astrant’) were from Limburg (‘far’ east of Belgium), which for us (from the ‘far’ west) was quite a distance away and kind of ‘exotic’ too. It’s where I got to know Stefan Joosten, their singer, who would become a pen-pal and someone to have a decent chat with at gigs… (‘D.O.L.’ played 4 times for Smurfpunx; see e.g. Netwerk, 5 jul 87 (Political Asylum).)

Brob

I remember that after ‘Ceresit’ played, the bands, almost the entire Smurfpunx-crew and a bunch of German fans and a big part of the crowd who couldn’t get a train home, stayed at Netwerk to ‘sleep’. I think about 40 people were there. And a dog or 2. And it was very cosy and funny.

Anmie

I remember this was a very good gig in Aalst. I don’t know why but we played our songs extremely fast that evening. Marcel, the shouter and rhythm-guitarist of ‘Ceresit’ (also ‘manager’) arranged the gig in Aalst. It was during a small tour through Germany, the Netherlands and Belgium. Yes, I also agree it was a very funny night after the gig in Netwerk. It was – especially for me – an unforgettable night because it was the first time I f***ked a girl which I loved very much LOL ;-).

I think, this concert and offcourse the whole 5 or 6 years with the ‘Ceresit’-clan influenced my life and of the others until today. I play drums again in a metal/trash-punk band (‘K.O.C.’), together with Robert (who occasionally played bass for ‘Ceresit’ to help us out). Marcel has a big sound-engineering, mixing and light-techniques company. He mixes a lot of concerts in Berlin: when he start out most of the punk-concerts in Berlin, later also big acts like ‘Metallica’, here in the Waldbühne-Berlin. Sven, the lead-guitarist, played in many punk- and metal-bands after ‘Ceresit’ but he got serious alcohol-problems and is very down today. Marcus, the man of the speacial effects and some synth-sounds, nowadays plays trumpet (!!!) for ‘Blechreiz’, a well known ska-punk band [Brob: These played at the Vort’n Vis in 1992.].

Ralf Herrmann (drummer ‘Ceresit’)

I was very nervous then – our first time on a real punk-festival – but also proud; our whole school knew we had played there…

Stefan Joosten (singer ‘Astrant’/’Dawn Of Liberty’)

‘Astrant’ was just or about to be renamed ‘Dawn Of Liberty’ * Fritz & Stefan (pic contributed by Danny Vandevelde)

Here’s a short communiqué Duco wrote in behalf of the Smurfpunx collective after one of the 1st fests…

>>To everyone who showed up on our 4th Smurfpunx festival (19 dec 86). The programme announced was ‘Ceresit’, ‘No Pigs’, ‘Repulsives’, D.O.L.’. Many among of you found the enterance (200 BeF [€ 5]) very expensive. Maybe it is for some but you should realise that the city of Aalst demands 6.000 BeF [€ 150] city-taxes for organising ‘amusements’, as they call it… And that’s only just one example of financial matters! Then there were also a lot of people who showed up for ‘No Pigs’ and were very enthusiastic to see them play in Belgium again. Unfortunately the band couldn’t make it, what was a disapointment for many, understandably. But what can you do if get a phonecall the night before that the drummer was ill and ‘S.C.A.’ were going to replace them, but they don’t show up either. We gave a part of the money meant for ‘No Pigs’ to ‘Ceresit’ and saved the rest of the profit for a next fest. Apologies to anyone! Next time we will try to, as we did before, offer the best possible bill for as little money as possible.<<

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‘Ceresit’ was the very first show that I organised for Smurfpunx. A band from what was then still West-Berlin… Wow, it felt like the end of the world back then! And in fact, it *was* the end of a certain world since West-Berlin was still an enclave in the D.D.R. (the German Democratic Republic) then. Kreuzberg (a part of West-Berlin) was still an epicentre of the European squat-scene. I heard it’s now very vintage chic and yuppie city. O tempora…

That show was also the only one where I met a self-proclaimed Muslim metal-head. His name was Mahmud I think, a Turkish bloke and ‘Venom’ fan who was among ‘Ceresit’s following.

One of the older Netwerk staff, an ageing ex-hippie called Willy, had a crush for ‘Ceresit’s female driver and tried to impress her, drunk as hell as he was, with pidgin German: “OUM-PA-OUM-PA-OUM-PA d-d-dassss ist hier als das Oktoberfest niewoâr my Mädchen!” :-) LOL

The PA bloke who we hired was one of Aalst’s peculiarities as well: Jacques D.W., a perfect double of Urbanus (a Flemish stand-up comedian and also comic-figure) who lived in a chaotic and filthy flat with his P.A. as furniture. We had to get all his stuff ourselves, after we found him at least. But: he was cheap! :-)

The day after their gig Netwerk, ‘Ceresit’ played in Overpelt (Limburg). That gig, which also featured ‘Dawn of Liberty’ and ‘Indirekt’ was organised by Steven ‘Swat’ Schepers [Brob: editor of ‘Zelfkrant’ zine].

There things went wrong: something with insufficient turnout due to which ‘Ceresit’ could not be paid the full agreed amount after which Marcel allegedly threatened Steven to take their tour-bus and ram it into the hall-entrance. :-) LOL

Finally, about these petty complainers that the entrance was too expensive: Pfff…we had several of them and in the end, you know, I could easily grab them by the neck-skin and bash their head against the wall, really. They had *no clue* what amount of free work went into this. Often they were people who had no objections spending several times the entrance-price on pot and booze or on mega-events like ‘Rock Torhout/Werchter’. Later, certain members of local bands even made a sport of getting free gig rides with fake entrance-stamps and beer-tickets. Pathetic.

Duco

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